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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 4:51:03 GMT
Seeing as we're supposed to be supporting the Camarilla maybe our leader should just be the neonate with the most status. That way the only way someone can get to be leader is by gaining respect and influence in the court. Just sayin'...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 4:54:15 GMT
bY tHe WaY, hOw Is EvErYoNe CoMiNg AlOnG wItH mEmOrIzInG tHeIr LiNeS fOr ThE pLaY?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 5:00:57 GMT
Okay I guess, though this seems like a pretty fucked up play. You really think anyone is going to want to sit through a production with lines like "All that Caitlin saw was a sudden flurry of movement, followed by part of Regina's lower leg skating across the floor, pin wheeling blood"?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 5:02:45 GMT
PlEaSe DoN't ShArE tHe LiNeS, bRyCe. It WiLl RuIn ThE sUrPrIsE.
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Post by Inara Shepard on Sept 11, 2015 19:26:10 GMT
Back to the topic at hand please... I would say that I am partial to agreeing with Imelda on this.
We need to have a leader that is strong within the court socially. After all, we are neonates, and this already has us at a disadvantage. For me personally, I know that a lot of the way I have been able to get things done for the Order is through having allies, and strong ties to certain members of the court, as well as status.
In the event of a tie, I am unsure what we would do, and I suppose that is a bridge that we will have to cross when we come to it.
As I stated Ngam, the ideal of having a random leader worked for the beginning of forming this order, though as more time goes on, the more serious people are taking us. They are seeing that we are worthwhile and not just a bunch of dumb youngins running around if you know what I mean. We are solidifying our positions in this court, and there are many who are starting already to have more respect for Neonates because of the efforts we have all put forth.
This is a trend I would like to see continue, but in order to do that, we need to be very selective about how we proceed going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 20:45:14 GMT
THE ISSUE WITH BASING POSITION ON STATUS IN THE COURT IS THAT THE MORE POWER A NEONATE AMASSES THE MORE HOSTILE ELDERS TEND TO BECOME. WHILE YOUR POSITION IN THE COURT OPENS DOORS IT ALSO MAKES US POWERFUL AND EXPERIENCED ENEMIES.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 20:47:18 GMT
I suppose if we had a tied vote, or if two neonates had the same level of experience, we could then randomly decide who leads. Coin toss anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 20:50:35 GMT
Just out of curiosity which of us possesses the most influence over the court at this point? I would imagine it would either be Inara or Empress Madness. When selecting a leader would we only look at status, or would we also consider such things as position, boons and favor with the Prince?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 20:57:20 GMT
What about patriotism? Shouldn't a kindred's level of Americanism be factored in as well? If not, how can we call ourselves anything but commie heathens, unfit to sample the red blood of freedom, honor, justice and more freedom? I understand that what with membership of both Yellow Perils and Pink Hazards we have to make some allowances for barbaric un-American sentiments and ideas, but surely even you sub-human monkey punching sewer rats can appreciate the global, universal and eternal superiority of all things American.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 20:59:30 GMT
Good thing you're so diplomatic, Vladamir, or you might have insulted someone there.
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Post by Inara Shepard on Sept 11, 2015 21:36:52 GMT
Alright. Here's my final say on things.
It seems we have a vast differing of opinions here, because let's be honest, we can never all be on the same page can we? SO that being said:
I want each of you to MESSAGE ME PRIVATELY with your vote from one of the following options.
-Diplomatic approach (Voting from whomever puts themselves forward)
-Random lot drawing (Pretty self explanatory)
-OTHER (Please explain in BRIEF. I don't want ten long drawn out paragraphs...)
This is how this will be settled. End of story.
As well, please read over the CODE that Ngam was kind enough to post, and include your vote on if that passes your standards or not with a simple
-yes
-no (Explain a bit as to why, what needs to be changed)
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Post by Hess on Sept 11, 2015 22:22:48 GMT
I was talking with a kindred I know who was a lawyer when she was breathing, and she said that "in honor of the American constitution, you should have something resembling the 'three fifths compromise' in regards to the Caitiff" what ever that means.
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Post by Inara Shepard on Sept 12, 2015 2:08:54 GMT
Hm. That's curious indeed. I wonder what that means..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 4:19:05 GMT
So... we have the results of our secret vote yet? I'm predicting its going to be the system where the kindred with the most status rules, especially since its a Brujah who came up with that idea (ironically) and a Brujah who coincidentally has the most status.
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Post by Inara Shepard on Sept 13, 2015 4:23:06 GMT
Okay, lets squash this right now.
First of all, where do you get off talking to me like that huh? Secondly, I work my ASS of to get what I want in terms of status.
THIRDLY, NO i don't have the results yet. I will post them when I do, and Bryce, If you continue to have such an issue with me, or how I run things, maybe you shouldn't have come back to the Order.
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