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Post by Kaspar Alsergrund on Jan 24, 2016 18:27:03 GMT
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What is the schedule for the upcoming games?
I am not on the Dark Ages board, but I heard talk of that first game being on Feb 20 (a 3rd Saturday in the month)
Last night, we were told that there is going to be a shift in scheduling for both games, from biweekly to semi-monthly.
Are the games going to be the 2nd and 4th Saturday of the month, as opposed to alternate Saturdays?
If so, this will affect me and any other player that works alternate weekends.
When Serge announced the schedule for the year (based on the biweekly schedule), March 5 would have been a game night.
Now, with the 2nd and 4th, March 12 is the game night.
By doing this about every 3 months the Saturdays change from the biweekly schedule, which essentially means, that those that work alternate weekends will be in for 3 months and then out for 3 months.
This goes against what the game has been from it's inception, and what Serge announced (and apparently he booked Mason's for the full year, biweekly).
I know that STs have lives, and I think it is awesome that Kyle is stepping into the position. If the reasoning is, is that it cuts down the amount of games over the course of a year (3 or 4) thus, decreasing ST workload, I fully understand. However, the reasoning that I heard was "to make scheduling easier". I would say that this does, in effect, make it more confusing as there will be a few times during the year, that will have 3 weeks between games rather than 2. Alternate weekends is the simplest method.
And yes, I realize that I am arguing from a point of bias, however, the logic remains sound.
I would ask that the current schedule remain at biweekly and not semi-monthly as stated.
Thank you,
Robert
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Post by Robert Richtor on Jan 24, 2016 20:52:29 GMT
I think the reason that the suggestion was made is that there is another game that runs on the 3rd saturday of every month and some of the players wanted to come over. That being said, I have no problem running on the first saturday and then switching over to the second saturday when the year forces it to keep you in the game if everyone else is on board. The Dark ages game can remain on the 4th saturday if that is where Chris wants to schedule it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 0:15:32 GMT
I am going to be running fourth Saturday start in March provided the Hall is available.
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Post by Kaspar Alsergrund on Jan 25, 2016 2:09:13 GMT
I would never as the game to change just to accommodate my schedule. That being said...I do know my schedule a year in advance
Thank you for just considering it.
Robert
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Post by Story Teller on Jan 27, 2016 12:43:31 GMT
Hey guys. There are a handful of us that are only able to make it to game every two weeks. Just wanted to throw that out there before you change the schedule.
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Post by Kaspar Alsergrund on Jan 27, 2016 13:51:36 GMT
That was my original point.
2nd and 4th Saturdays of the month are NOT every 2 weeks. There will be weeks where there is only 3 weeks between the 4th and 1st Saturday.
My preference is to continue the game as it is, every 2 weeks alternating between Modern Nights and Dark Ages.
Robert
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Post by Michael on Jan 27, 2016 18:48:34 GMT
As Chris mentioned, he will be running the Dark ages game every 4th Saturday of the month. When we decided to do it this way it was for many reasons.
The two biggest are that we only have the time to Storytell/run one game a month. The second is that neither of us (and most other people I have spoke to), do not work on a rotating two week schedule. So when I (or my wife) is planning vacations, family visits and other events, it is easier when we look at a Calander to see when the 4th Saturdays are rather than do a long calculation to figure out when the alternating Saturday falls that month.
The dark ages game was only ever going to be once a month, even if there were potentially 3 possible every two weeks games that month.
Another reason for us choosing the 4th Saturday is that there are fewer Stat Holidays that fall on those weekends. As someone with children those are the weekends that we are quite often away visiting Grandparents and such. We are really trying to accommodate the players but there is a bit of family obligations we have to consider also. So rather than cancel games those weekends we tried to maximize how many games we can play in a year while maintaining the once a month.
There were secondary benefits to running Dark Ages on the 4th Saturdays. There has been some interest from out of town players (Edmonton, Calgary...). And yes some of them play in an Edmonton game that happens to fall on the 3rd Saturday every month. Coincidentally this benefits us as it may bring more players and enhance everyone's game experience. When looking into it I was told that for them booking it off their work to come it would be easier if it was the same Saturday every month.
When we discussed this with Kyle he was looking at running one game a month also so it seemed to be a great solution for us both.
Since Robert mentioned not playing Dark Ages anyways, I would suggest that if Kyle wishes to accommodate, that he runs and schedules his game as follows to allow attendance.
February 6th (1st Saturday)
March 5th (1st Saturday)
April 2nd (1st Saturday)
May 14th (2nd Saturday)
June 11th (2nd Saturday)
July 9th (2nd Saturday)
August 6th (1st Saturday)
September 3rd (1st Saturday)
October 1st (1st Saturday)
November 12th (2nd Saturday)
December 10th (2nd Saturday)
This is the continuing alternating every second Saturday schedule. Then if he has the time he could schedule other Saturdays as he see's fit.
Anyways, Dark Ages will be every 4th Saturday of the Month Starting March 26th. The first game at current is still scheduled for Saturday February 20th.
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Post by Kaspar Alsergrund on Jan 27, 2016 20:24:54 GMT
That would be a great schedule.
If Kyle, and the rest of the group would be ok with it. If not, then I would fully understand.
Robert
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Post by KuroNecko on Jan 28, 2016 0:05:58 GMT
I just go with the flow here, I am fine with any schedule. I have work every Sat morning, but I can make it to every game~~
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Post by Alix on Jan 28, 2016 11:57:30 GMT
Personally I wish to see no change in the schedule being alternating weekends, it seems to work better for most.
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Post by Inara Shepard on Jan 28, 2016 18:33:01 GMT
I think the schedule Shane planned out, and his reasoning's are very good. As Micheal said, some of us can only make it certain times, if at all. Haha. I wont be taking place in the dark ages games so it doesn't overly affect me but as previously stated, for those of us with families and stuff, it works how Shane placed it out.
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Post by Mack on Jan 28, 2016 19:03:40 GMT
I understand how semi-monthly makes long term booking easier, but generally you're looking at a calendar when booking days off anyways, it's maybe 30 seconds to count weekends across an entire year, or you can just look at the list we've had already planned out since before the year started. Doesn't seem that much harder to me.
As for scheduling, I find that most people who the semi-monthly plan benefits tend to have much more stable work days than those that dont, at least in terms of repeating weekly schedules. For me that seems like it would be an all or nothing thing then, all Saturdays off or no Saturdays off. I guess for those with no Saturdays off, booking 2nd and 4th weekends off in advance is perhaps easier, but then we're getting into my first paragraph again. For everyone else, the original scheduling is as easy to remember, and probably easier to guarantee.
And finally, I understand the want to only run a single game a month. But is the difference between 28 days (bi-weekly) and 8-31 days (semi-monthly) that big of a difference?
Holidays, fair enough. I took a quick glance at the previous list, and didn't see any that seemed to fall on the major ones. That said, holidays matter little to me, so I don't remember all the important dates. Perhaps there are one or two on there that may cause problems, but again, is that a large enough problem to be worth changing the entire schedule? Everyone misses a few games, and previously when games fell on a holiday, nobody seemed to get bent out of shape about cancelling hem those weeks.
As I'm sure everyone that read this has figured out, I'm an advocate for keeping to the old system here. That said, I will probably need a few reminders if that system changes, but it shouldn't cause me too many issues overall. It just seems to me like the people for this are few but loud, so i thought I'd try and provide a reasoned 'devil's advocate' post.
EDIT: I guess what it boils down to for me, is that the original seemed simpler.
New: 2nd and 4th weekends, have to check a calendar.
Old: Did I just have a game this past weekend? If no, then this weekend, if yes, then not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 20:23:13 GMT
Bunni is gonna miss you all for awhile will be on boards and facebook if you need me though. But sadly my new job takes over weekends.
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2016 23:34:29 GMT
The next game is still scheduled for Saturday the 6th at 6pm. We will discuss what we want to do there and hopefully come up with something that makes everyone happy.
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Post by Jessie Roland on Feb 2, 2016 3:05:00 GMT
I should be able to make it. Might be a little late. The kids have a funspiel curling thing that goes till 5. I will head over afterwards.
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