Post by Michael on May 24, 2016 16:31:42 GMT
Well, I have been thinking long and hard on this.
I know I was in support of all the areas we requested but let us think this through.
Red Deer Hospital. Edvin, your retainer is CEO or some such I believe. What does receiving Domain over the hospital accomplish that benefits you? Your retainer can already do what ever you need there. By accepting Domain YOU individually are responsible for all that happens there. Any clawed up corpse that arrives, bullet ridden cadaver becomes your responsibility to deal with. IF anyone enters without your permission it is up to you to enforce your domain or else you look weak. And you do not have the Sheriff to call on as it is your responsibility not hers. That is what domain means. You do not control the Health influence wielded so people can still act from outside upon it. You only control the physical aspects and security of it.
The Banks, why do we want domain over the physical bank buildings? they are closed mostly at night so it is just a responsibility to enforce. It grants no benefits. We are unlikely to host a gather in them so it does not really do anything. We can not control peoples money from one branch, we do not have the influence to do so and if we did we would already control it.
I have relinquished my request for the Golf and Country Club at this time as I do not own it at this time. I will consider trying to purchase it and adapt it so we can hold gatherings at which time I may reconsider. But I decided I really did not want to be responsible to have to deal with werewolves or personally maintaining the security of the place for no real benefit.
Domain only "forces" people to physically keep out. If someone causes issues in it then it is our responsibility.
Here is my suggestion. Ask for feeding territory instead only stating that the Ventrue are the only ones allowed to feed there.
Prince Elijah can make a curiosity to reduce the rights of domain but to state that we are also responsible to patrol and maintain the area and help the sheriff look into anything that might be happening in our feeding territory.
Then we work together as Ventrue to purchase and make claim to a few actual structures. The Black Knight, Sheraton or other grand structures in Red Deer. Once we own them, then we seek domain over these physical places and host non-Elysium gatherings. Make Havens in them for visiting dignitaries or visiting Ventrue. Control them utterly. If we hast a gathering then everyone must show us respect and make requests or pay us for violating our domain.
If the Tremere want to cast a circle of warding (as described by Napolean) then they would have to request of us to do it and we could charge them. As a non-Elysium we have the right to make the rules, and they could be nearly the same as Elysium. If we wanted to grant someone the right to protect it we hire them and grant them the right. The Keeper is only for Elysiums, UNLESS you hire him to maintain your peace and rules in which case he now has jurisdiction to do so and his status to back it up.
I know I was in support of all the areas we requested but let us think this through.
Red Deer Hospital. Edvin, your retainer is CEO or some such I believe. What does receiving Domain over the hospital accomplish that benefits you? Your retainer can already do what ever you need there. By accepting Domain YOU individually are responsible for all that happens there. Any clawed up corpse that arrives, bullet ridden cadaver becomes your responsibility to deal with. IF anyone enters without your permission it is up to you to enforce your domain or else you look weak. And you do not have the Sheriff to call on as it is your responsibility not hers. That is what domain means. You do not control the Health influence wielded so people can still act from outside upon it. You only control the physical aspects and security of it.
The Banks, why do we want domain over the physical bank buildings? they are closed mostly at night so it is just a responsibility to enforce. It grants no benefits. We are unlikely to host a gather in them so it does not really do anything. We can not control peoples money from one branch, we do not have the influence to do so and if we did we would already control it.
I have relinquished my request for the Golf and Country Club at this time as I do not own it at this time. I will consider trying to purchase it and adapt it so we can hold gatherings at which time I may reconsider. But I decided I really did not want to be responsible to have to deal with werewolves or personally maintaining the security of the place for no real benefit.
Domain only "forces" people to physically keep out. If someone causes issues in it then it is our responsibility.
Here is my suggestion. Ask for feeding territory instead only stating that the Ventrue are the only ones allowed to feed there.
Prince Elijah can make a curiosity to reduce the rights of domain but to state that we are also responsible to patrol and maintain the area and help the sheriff look into anything that might be happening in our feeding territory.
Then we work together as Ventrue to purchase and make claim to a few actual structures. The Black Knight, Sheraton or other grand structures in Red Deer. Once we own them, then we seek domain over these physical places and host non-Elysium gatherings. Make Havens in them for visiting dignitaries or visiting Ventrue. Control them utterly. If we hast a gathering then everyone must show us respect and make requests or pay us for violating our domain.
If the Tremere want to cast a circle of warding (as described by Napolean) then they would have to request of us to do it and we could charge them. As a non-Elysium we have the right to make the rules, and they could be nearly the same as Elysium. If we wanted to grant someone the right to protect it we hire them and grant them the right. The Keeper is only for Elysiums, UNLESS you hire him to maintain your peace and rules in which case he now has jurisdiction to do so and his status to back it up.