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Post by Samuel Pickens on Oct 5, 2015 7:19:12 GMT
I'll keep this short. Like all positions of power within Clan Gangrel, the Primogen seat is maintained through continual action. Should any clan member feel the title holder is weak, compromised, or not advancing the clan's goals they may be challenged.
Thus, if you want Primogen you'll have to take in it single combat from the current Primogen. They may surrender or fight to keep it as is their want.
I personally will not get involved, so long as the respect that I have earned for my kills is pad to me.
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Post by Allen Schezar on Oct 5, 2015 18:51:30 GMT
What I saw and heard at court disgusted me. The Disrespect Shown to Ma Sire within conversation with those not of are clan and the fact that a NEONATE dared to threaten her superior ma self an ancilla. Diana wolfsbane you want to keep your title of primogen then you must prove you are deserving of it, from what i witnessed in court that ain't the case.
Infront of all ma fellow Gangrel I challenge Diana Wolfsbane for the title of primogen!
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Post by Diana Wolfsblane on Oct 6, 2015 2:45:01 GMT
What the hell!! first thing first, who I talk to in privet, stay in privet. You have no right of snooping into my privet discussions that I have with anyone. Second, Your sire never told anyone of us that he has a child and that he was coming to the meeting, so I was very, very suspicious of you and don't know where your loyalties lies within the Gangrel clan. Thirdly I didn't threaten anyone of my clan. I just told you, what you heard, keep it to yourself.
Me and Mack are having some trust issues with Pickens cause of what he did infront of the court, by stepping over my status of Primogen by not letting me introduce you to the prince. Your sire didn't tell me that he was gonna introduce you to the prince or properly introduce us, telling me about your history together, so that I not have any doubts about you. So really I want to keep my status as Primogen and I am sure everyone in the clan would as well. I have Mack and the sisters by my side.
And I do not want no one to force anyone to choice who will be Primogen. Let them choice who will be primogen, it is their choice and it is their freedom to choice.
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Post by Allen Schezar on Oct 6, 2015 2:57:14 GMT
If you refuse the challenge then you forfeit the title of primogen.
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Post by Diana Wolfsblane on Oct 6, 2015 3:04:43 GMT
Am I saying I am refusing the challenge? No, I am meerly saying my intake on this and I accept it. But I must tell you, if I loose, no one will support this. No one in our clan trusts you. We do not know where you loyalties lies. We had too many betrayer's in the Camarilla and I do not want one of them being a Gangrel. I hold pride for this clan and I am trying my best to make us useful and acceptable to the others. If you win, I know you will destroy this clan's well being and will bring us shame.
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Post by Allen Schezar on Oct 6, 2015 3:49:03 GMT
I find that rather funny but never the less if and when I win my only priority is to bring the clan together instead of us being the puppets of other clans. We are clan gangrel and yes we tend to do are on things but us openly showing are disrespect to are elders divides us and makes us look weak. Diana all you have done is shown there is no unity/trust in are clan by openly bad mouthing me and my Sire, allowing those in the court to make you their weapon within are clan.
Are duel will be held when next all us gangrel are together. I look forward to meeting the rest of ya'll in person.
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Post by Diana Wolfsblane on Oct 6, 2015 3:55:41 GMT
I did not "Openly" disrespect you two in the courts. I did not say it out loud infront of everyone during the meeting times. I did not bad mouth you or Pickens. All I said i do not trust you. I do not trust Pickens. He is my elder, but I do not trust him. Do not twist my words. I was getting some understanding and some advice from my fellow vampires that I personally trust, even with my life.
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